Remember Minotiry report's "Pre-Crime" division?

Well Washington State evidently has started up their own version of it.


"WA Goes After Pre-Crime: Gun Confiscation Proposed For Those "Likely To Commit Violence In The Near Future"
by Tyler Durden
Sep 27, 2016 9:10 PM

A new ballot measure being considered by voters in Washington State, officially referred to a Initiative Measure 1491, would allow authorities to seize guns from people considered "significantly more likely to commit violence toward themselves or others in the near future." The legislation would allow authorities with a court order to seize an individual's guns for a period of up to 1 year. Under the measure, gun owners would have the right to appeal a court order to have their guns returned but would have no ability to block the upfront confiscation.

The full text of Initiative Measure 1491 is included at the end of this post but below are a couple of key excerpts:

This act is designed to temporarily prevent individuals who are at high risk of harming themselves or others from accessing firearms by allowing family, household members, and police to obtain a court order when there is demonstrated evidence that the person poses a significant danger, including danger as a result of a dangerous mental health crisis or violent behavior.

Studies show that individuals who engage in certain dangerous behaviors are significantly more likely to commit violence toward themselves or others in the near future. These behaviors, which can include other acts or threats of violence, self-harm, or the abuse of drugs or alcohol, are warning signs that the person may soon commit an act of violence.

Individuals who pose a danger to themselves or others often exhibit signs that alert family, household members, or law enforcement to the threat. Many mass shooters displayed warning signs prior to their killings, but federal and state laws provided no clear legal process to suspend the shooters' access to guns, even temporarily."


I'd like to know what is bar for removal?  And who decides?  Is it a Psychiatrist?  Or some person in an office with no training or certifications?

Commit a Misdemeanor banned from owning a gun?

"Democratic U.S. Sen. Bob Casey announced he will introduce legislation to keep guns out of the hands of those who commit criminal acts based on hate. The Hate Crimes Prevention Act would prohibit the purchase, possession or shipment of a firearm by anyone convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime or who received a hate crime sentence enhancement, according to a statement from Casey’s office on Monday. It would also prohibit the sale of firearms to anyone reasonably suspected to be guilty of a misdemeanor hate crime."

H/T Gay Patriot

Remember how when the "Lautenberg Amendment" went into affect? When you could be convicted of a Misdemeanor Domestic Violence charge for and lose your Rights to own a firearm?

Do you know how many Law Enforcement officers, deputies and agents got caught in that? And what about the people who got wrongly convicted? And there have been MANY of them. So many that there has been a petition to get Congress to act.

Well NOW, Democratic U.S. Sen. Bob Casey, wants to make it if you so much as speak your mind about how they ways things are going, you can be banned from owning a firearm. THEY get to decide what is and isn't a "Hate Crime". Remember those college students getting "Traumatized" by someone writing "Trump 2016" in chalk on a sidewalk? Yeah if you had doe that, they want you "Convicted" of a "Hate Crime" and ban you from exercising your "Constitutional Rights"

Maybe this is why Shannon Watts doesn't think College Student should have guns

And maybe she is projecting some.  Enough anyway that it might be advisable for her seek competent psychiatric help.

Rep Blake Farenthold responds to my question about BATFE's M855 Ban

Pastor Mark L. Anderson

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Dear Pastor Anderson:

Thank you for contacting me with your concerns over the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) announcement that it intends to ban the manufacturing, importing, or selling of M855 ball ammunition. Like you, I agree that this is just another example of our lawless President who believes he can work around Congress to change laws he does not agree with.

As a Texan, my definition of gun control is hitting what you aim at and nothing else.

I have always been a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. I do not believe that new federal laws and restrictions will do anything to reduce gun violence in America. I agree that those committing violent crimes using guns do not respect the law as it is today and new laws won't help.

The ATF will be accepting comments until March 16, 2015 on this proposed restriction. I will continue to monitor this issue and encourage you to reach out to me to share with me how the new rule affects you. Should congressional action be required, you can rest assured that I will continue to fight for the rights of gun owners who responsibly use firearms.

Thank you again for sharing your views with me. To stay updated on what's happening in Washington; please sign up for my e-newsletter by clicking here. I also encourage you to stay connected by following my posts on Twitter and Instagram, "liking" my page on Facebook, and subscribing to my channel on YouTube.

With warm personal regards,

Blake Farenthold
Member of Congress

Yes I am an Ordained Minister.  Hence the "Pastor"  So far he is the only one of my Congressional Representatives to respond.  Sen. Ted Cruz and Sen. John Cornyn have not responded as of yet.

Yup Yup, as I alluded to in a prior post

Agent Provocateur

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